Why isn’t the mainstream press gloating over the victory for European supremacy in Britain since the High Court ruled that they do not have the jurisdiction to hear this case? Is it common that only one (1) journalist would attend such a case and quickly disappear not to be heard from again? Are predetermined outcomes a possibility?
More questions than answers, as normal.
UPDATE: The London Evening Standard alone has so far printed a tiny announcement!
This is fascinating. I look forward to see how the case develops.
By: Stop Common Purpose on May 23, 2011
at 10:06 pm
Yup, the next move should be Chinese interesting
By: rmiglobal on May 23, 2011
at 10:19 pm
[...] From the Runnymede institute – the high court has ruled against them, but also stated that the 1999 act didn’t amend [...]
By: The rule of law » Anonymong on May 23, 2011
at 11:27 pm
Is there any possibility of The Runnymede Institute leading the charge to persuade the original 25 peers to resubmit their 2001 petition to the Queen under Article 61 of the Magna Carta, giving Her Majesty 40 days to withdraw us from the EU or dissolve this treasonous Parliament? It seems to me that all the patriotic groups in the country could unite to persuade the peers, and could use those 40 days to select indigenous British patriots to form a new government, which would immediately withdraw us from the EU and recall our troops from abroad to defend Great Britain from attack by the EU.
Here is the link to a news item about it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1321462/Peers-use-Magna-Carta-to-oppose-EU-charter.html
By: Flo on May 24, 2011
at 7:22 pm
We have influential members who see the case of Lord Mereworth as an opportunity, They ‘are’ already taking measures for a final round. Only the legal team is privy to the tactics.
The legal process apparently works an inch at a time. The latest show trial of Brussels muscles merely closed the pincer a bit more and there’s not much room for the government to squirm on the next application. I’m now informed that article 61 creates a problem for the monarch.
But rest assured, beyond all this, we are planning to organise an event at Rynnymede for the 800th anniversary, all the peers will be contacted.
By: rmiglobal on May 24, 2011
at 7:41 pm
Thank you very much for your prompt reply. 2015 seems a long way off, and I wish the peers could be contacted now, so they could resubmit their petition while Baron Mereworth continues his brave fight, which will be blocked at every turn by the traitors in government and ignored by the media, as your videos point out. Surely the Magna Carta was meant to be used effectively, cutting the Gordian Knot in only 40 days, instead of 4 years of legal action. But that’s only my opinion, which no one at all seems to share.
Good luck to you all anyway!
By: FLo on May 24, 2011
at 8:00 pm
The new case will be filed very soon actually, it will rattle some cages starting in summer.
Thanks for showing you’re ready to speak up. Maybe it will catch on
By: rmiglobal on May 24, 2011
at 8:11 pm
[...] take the Ministry of Justice to the High Court over the matter, only to be dismissed with a brusque “We can’t deal with this.” response. In essence, they gave him the brush off. Go ‘way son, you bother me patronizing style of [...]
By: A quick constitutional ramble | The Bill Sticker Alternative on May 25, 2011
at 3:08 am
Just wanted to thank you for sharing these videos with us. I have a personal stake in this as I entered Lawful Rebellion on 15th July 2009. I will be using it as a defence in an upcoming court case.
My blog reaches around 1000 people every day. If you have news on this subject I would be delighted to use my blog to spread the word. Please contact me at my blog if I can be of use to the cause.
CR.
By: Captain Ranty on May 25, 2011
at 8:00 am
Aye Aye Captain
All action that distances itself from the politicians is commendable. We thank you too for linking on your site. The goal is to put the enforcers of senseless rules in their place. The remedy is right there in the Law if we’re only allowed to use it, see the distraction? of course you do.
By taking his case to the High Court, Baron Mereworth forced the tyrants to reveal their hand in the ‘summary’ judgment, dictatorship of the bureaucrats!
Thanks again
James
By: rmiglobal on May 25, 2011
at 8:16 am
Oh dear! A plea for cash. £100,000 will only open the door to the Barristers office, sitting down will cost another truckload. Who wins from the Courts? – He who pays most.
Much as many will approve of these alleged steps toward revitalising an ancient document to sever the chains, and who will have hope in their hearts for an exit to the EU machinations, the poison has been long and treasonously delivered, swallowed, and is now exuding from every pore of the Nations comatose body. It breathes, but the eyes are glazed over with desires for more £££’s. Has it not always been the case? Have we ever been without chains?
Technical phraseology in Law (for want of a better description, or ‘Legalese’ maybe) ensures the masses at large will be tripped up at every juncture, and the traps will always be set and sprung by those with most to lose; the elite society, the bankers, the Illuminati controlling the World. Were the people to fight back they would be crushed – are being crushed – through their simple desires to be left alone to get on with life – they reluctantly comply. Would we not love to comply instead with basic, Common Law? Most certainly. Where are the Barons? Where is their true standing in todays society, the society that is the people of this once proud Nation of British? Have those Barons not also taken the EU Shilling? Has not Baroness Ashton? Who is this large Gentleman, and the American with the wandering focus? What is their involvement precisely, and in what way are they influential, and with whom?
Just who can you trust?
In wishing this process well, how many wishes come true. It is like flicking stones at a dam. Now if we could flick a stone in the face of a passing worker, who then happened to fall upon the plunger that detonated the Dynamite that destroyed the dam – oh how happy we might be. But perhaps like Harwood, despite the charge, a caution will suffice, though the deed has had its fatal affect. We are on the ground, and suffering. We feel the pain and cannot believe it is happening. We are flicking stones. We are wishfully thinking.
Peers, Barons, Monarchy? Just smells of more money to me. And my bag is about empty.
By: Derek Reynolds on May 25, 2011
at 8:43 am
Hi Derek, we really like your comment. It perfectly encapsulates the case for skepticism so that the Institute is forced to reply and plead ‘their’ case.
It’s like this, in the decade plus paperwork ping pong, various offices of government forced the Baron to seek legal advice at his personal cost. With each outing in the legal arena, he made friends in many walks of life and their professional advice came as a tangible token of that friendship. Last Monday, Mereworth paid £8k plus in court costs and another £8k to his barrister, as much as money stinks, that was the price of the Baron’s patriotism on the day and as I understand it, he paid for a few people’s lunch after the proceedings.
Yes Derek, we too hope this isn’t another of those lost cause cash cows. The plan as it’s come down to the web staff requires the lawyers to prove they’re working. A good level of transparency isn’t just healthy for the institute, it should help win the argument through the government’s counter attacks that ought to expose their illegitimacy in the public eye. If they’re shown to only represent their rich patrons, the game is pretty much up. They can fake their way through Kangaroo courts for just so long.
The two gentlemen in the video clips are friends of Baron Mereworth and did not receive any money for their support, by the by.
By: rmiglobal on May 25, 2011
at 10:01 am
Many thanks for a less than savaging reply!
I have read most of your website (though not the articles), and will continue to ‘listen out’ so to speak. My allegiance to our Monarch was once unshakable. It is no longer so. Certain members of her family, let alone Ministers, have let the side down, and generally disgraced themselves in public and in Parliament. But then if we look back through the history books we see it has ever been so.
The greatest ‘trick’ would appear to be the ‘acceptance’ of the once called ‘Common Market’, both by the population at large, and perhaps our Monarch also, why else would she have reneged (as is elsewhere claimed) on her Coronationn Oath – we have a foreign potentate making our legislation. Who is really holding the strings? Not being in a position to ask her directly, and likely never to be so, I will never know – The closest I came to her was on my Father’s shoulders as she was swept by in her Coronation Coach. He survived Dunkirk and North Africa, and would be devastated by todays World.
I am not a religious person, and as time goes by, and I learn much that has been kept from my eyes and ears through alternative media to that distributed by broadcast and paper – the more I tend towards an anarchic society.
Transparency is seldom available through the stone of government. Our ‘Great Charter’ along with our Constitution are frail in comparison. Pieces of paper, vanished in fire and smoke. What we have is the skin on our backs, precious little else. And even that is under threat.
Our Monarch is seen as a tourist attraction, impotent in Government. Is there any evidence to anything else?
The evidence we have is what we see and experience first hand. A few lines from an old soldiers song:
” . . the young children ask ‘What are they marching for?’
and amidst all the tears, flag waving and cheers,
I ask myself the same question.”
Apologies for the deep skepticism. Too much is too wrong.
Regards to all who continue the fight. You have my spiritual backing despite what I have written.
Hang them high.
By: Derek Reynolds on May 25, 2011
at 1:08 pm
James,
My pleasure. We are fighting the same war. Please keep us updated on the donation plans. There is much interest over at Ranty Barracks. We will all we can to help.
Stay feisty!
CR.
By: Captain Ranty on May 25, 2011
at 9:06 am
I’m a big bloke and not ashamed to say I actually cried when I was explaining to friends that at least one of the Barons has not sold his honour for Euros and is standing his ground on behalf of all of us. You see, I entered into formal Lawful Rebellion after the Queen (citizen Windsor of the EU) signed the treasonous Lisbon Treaty rag. Part of this process was to formally withdraw the oath of allegiance I made to our former Sovereign when I was in the military, and offer my oath instead to the Barons Committee. To be able to stand behind a real Baron, as my forefathers did at Runnymede, would be the greatest privilege I could ask for. This is no less than the future of our culture, identity, and customs that is at stake.
To be honest I recently thought that the Barons had now abandoned us common people of this island and we were on our own in reclaiming back our country. When this news dropped on me that Baron Mereworth has now taken up the fight I was elated. Therefore my offer of allegiance still stands. I will also make a contribution to the fund, as money is but a mere diversion compared with returning to me and mine our constitutional and Common Law customs and protections. Whatever money I have you are welcome to add to your fighting fund.
You may not quite comprehend just how much support you have out here! And just how many fence-sitters you will encourage to climb down and join us if this dealt with properly and well publicised. Just look at what the BCG managed to do in Birkenhead in April with NO money and very little organisation or publicity. 600+ true and good people (including myself) turned up ignorant of the actual event but aware that we have to stand shoulder to shoulder beside anyone making a stand. Keep us all updated for the next round of your own campaign and I will gladly be there with many of my friends and fellow rebels to show the good baron that he is not alone in his struggle. We managed 600+ at Birkenhead. Give us enough notice and we can easily get 6000 peaceful, decent, honourable, and lawful people from all walks of life there on the day to show our support for Baron Mereworth.
I await more news to help begin rallying your support.
I see that John Hurst and Captain Ranty have already posted. Thanks fellas! Along with numerous others your selfless work is very much appreciated.
If you need any help in any way please don’t hesitate to get in touch with me.
In Lawful Rebellion,
Commonly known as Rob
By: Rob on May 26, 2011
at 5:19 pm
Thank you for this great message Rob. Just to give a little something for your trouble, the 7th Earl of Onslow died some days ago. He fought Blair first. http://news.scotsman.com/obituaries/Obituary-The-Earl-of-Onslow.6772624.jp At his funeral, several peers came forward to confirm their support, asked what they could do to help.
You can feel it in the air can’t you? People are waking up everywhere
Cheers
J of the family T
By: rmiglobal on May 26, 2011
at 6:10 pm
May I just point out that the hereditary peers have not abandoned us—it seems WE have abandoned THEM! The 25 peers submitted their petition under Article 61 of the Magna Carta in 2001, but the public were not ready to carry it through. Tragically, it seems no one is willing to ask them to try it again, now that the public are more awake. Here is a list of the original signatories:
Lord Sudeley
Viscount Cowdray
Viscount Norwich
Lord Napier & Ettrick
Earl of Romney
Earl Kitchener
Lord Napier of Magdala
Lord Ailsa
Lord Sandys
Earl Cathcart
Lord Oaksey
Lord Milne
Lord Newall
Lord Barber of Tewkesbury
Lord Dormer
Viscount Exmouth
Lord Wise
Earl of Devon
Earl of Cromer
Earl of Shannon (as Lord Carleton)
Lord Sandford
Marquis of Aberdeen (as Earl Aberdeen)
Lord Strathcarron
Lord Craigmyle
The Countess of Dysart
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 1:40 pm
Rob, your mentioning the Queen’s apparent “treason” brought up a question which has puzzled me for years. Why DID the Queen sign all those treaties giving her own kingdom away? I can understand all the other traitors selling us down the river for EU money and power, but the Queen doesn’t need any of those inducements. What could possibly make her sign away not only her own kingdom, but that of all her heirs? Does she really want Prince William and his new bride to be King & Queen of some broken chunk of “EU Region 42″?
I can think of only two possibilities: either the Marxists have threatened her and the Royal Family with a fate similar to the Tsar’s, promising her that she can keep her personal fortune if she gives up the kingdom quietly, or else she has been promised a bigger kingdom, and I can’t imagine all the other European monarchies going along with that. Speaking of governments threatening monarchies, remember how many years King Juan Carlos of Spain was forced to wait by Franco before he was “allowed” to take the throne, to great rejoicing.
If she has, in fact, been threatened, it seems to me that she might be very glad for us to use the Magna Carta to set up a patriotic new government and reaffirm the monarchy as an integral part of our nation and our history. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this.
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 9:57 pm
Pardon me, but I left out the four who actually presented the petition at Buckingham Palace:
Lord Ashbourne
The Duke of Rutland
Viscount Massereene & Ferrard (as Lord Oriel)
Lord Hamilton of Dalzell
and here is the quote from Lord Ashbourne to the Telegraph:
“These rights may not have been exercised for 300 years, but only because they were not needed. Well, we need them now. They may be a little dusty but they are in good order.”
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 1:48 pm
How does one get to support these worthy Lords if that they be, and how do they become aware of that support and its desires? Direct lobbying to the House of Lords? Or some other way?
By: Derek on May 27, 2011
at 2:48 pm
The present House of Lords is lame as they come, they rubber stamp government’s bidding. They simply bounced the claim around at will. It went to the wrong court and they denied jurisdiction to hear it. The goal is to put the 1999 Act under the public microscope in the right courtroom and pulverise it.
Sensible action is what gets everyone off a fence. After the long weekend, they’re going to send a letter around to let the peers know where we’re at and how they can best participate in the final phase. It will be posted on the site. The last thing we want is anyone storming the barricades when the law is alive and well and only held hostage by these clowns.
Don’t forget, they didn’t kick out all the successive peers, particularly the ones from families historically famous for breeding traitors.
By: rmiglobal on May 27, 2011
at 3:14 pm
Apparently, many of them were deprived of their seats in the House of Lords by Tony Blair, and since the House of Lords did not exist when the Magna Carta was signed, it seems to me that they don’t need to be in the House at all in order to submit the petition to the Queen again. It’s nothing to do with the House of Lords, unless I am mistaken—just these 25 peers of the realm, representing the people.
I was wondering if someone might like to contact Lord Ashbourne for a start, to find out his opinion on the matter, and the other three peers who actually submitted it to Buckingham Palace. What do you think?
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 7:41 pm
Hi Flo
Runnymede is in touch with everyone. We haven’t been hiding, it’s just not been reported in the mainstream controlled media. That’s probably for the best by the look of it
By: rmiglobal on May 27, 2011
at 8:39 pm
RMIGlobal, somehow I am not at all reassured by your reply. In fact, quite the opposite.
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 9:38 pm
Time will tell. If you feel like writing to anyone, please feel free to do so. It couldn’t hurt. We’re here on a Friday night trying to finish some work but we’re not ‘in charge’ of anything. Just letting you know as much info as we have. Good night.
By: rmiglobal on May 27, 2011
at 9:48 pm
Well done Flo!
By: Lucas on May 27, 2011
at 2:21 pm
Thank you so much, Lucas! I always feel like such a lone small voice, drowned out and ignored every time I suggest this in various places, and you are the very first person to support this possibility. It’s not my idea, really, just a reiteration of the peers’ courageous action of ten years ago.
Thanks also to A.D. for reminding us that “successive peers” is a much better term to use.
By: Flo on May 27, 2011
at 7:47 pm
Remember that until Mandelson spun the word “hereditary” for negative PR purposes, they were successive peers. If you look at the hierarchy of common purpose, he’s there at the top of the chart.
Know the enemy!
By: A.D. on May 27, 2011
at 2:48 pm
Hmm. I do hope this is not leading to a promissory allusion.
“They [The Lords] rubber stamp government’s bidding”.
Oh yes, I have experience of that after fruitless lobbying prior to NERCA 2006. Forty one missives to Peers of the realm resulted in six responses. Two dismissive negatives, and three scrawled postcards in acknowledgement of my communication. Only the Bishop of Exeter sympathised, and passed on his apologies for having other business on the day.
I can understand the need for ‘stealth’ in some respects, but any movement needs communication. How does all this stand in relationship to Dr Richard North’s ‘Referism’?
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/05/about-3060-results.html
My concern with matters Monarch, are certain claims that our current Monarch is not what is believed to be, nor is she able, or allowed to carry out her ‘Powers’ to her ‘Utmost’ ability. Those whom we elect and appoint on high, or are appointed by others, and whether inherited or otherwise, are in the end all human beings (I hope) and therefore equal. Any inequality is determined by our actions and beliefs. To praise and laud pomp and ceremony may be little more than a tourist attraction in todays world, and for those who remember the Coronation in their lifetimes – nostalgia. But in the end, who in their own homes, in their own lives even, want such bowing and scraping to be part and parcel of how we live, how we are governed – indeed, what need have we of governance? Guidance would be a far better facility, such as the elders of comparatively primitive villages and civilisations in which they teach and arbitrate. Their wisdom was their crown, gained through respect and fairness. Today’s ‘wisdom’ is purchased by bankers, and distrubuted by the force of law, which it turns out to be – the baton, shield and ‘kettle’.
The ‘Globalists’ would have such powers maintained as they are recognised by the masses be they Monarchical or religious. This charge that is sweeping the land through ‘Conquest by Consent’ to steal a headline from somewhere else, has to be scotched. Should we be blocking one oligarchy by supporting another? Or is it Hobson’s Choice?
By: Derek on May 28, 2011
at 7:45 am
Good link Derek, I’ll recommend it.
Permit me to emphasise, we don’t intend to start any movement. Like the We Are Change groups forming globally, BE the Change you want. The peers involved just want their country back. If there’s a possibility of a FAIR vote after that, providence will show the way. People need to be left in peace while doing the necessesary for themselves, family and their neighbours.
The specific reason we decided to have a website was because we knew somehow that no mainstream outlet would report on Mereworth’s efforts. The power cabal thrives on misinformation and finding conniving ways to get people dejected, at each other’s throats.
There’s a Rally in Trafalgar Square on the 4th of June but I’m not sure who organised it. They’ll have lots of great speakers on ‘legal’ child kidnapping and more, it’s important for us to show solidarity. We’ll be down there filming and doing interviews.
By: rmiglobal on May 28, 2011
at 10:39 am
Derek, it seems to me that it is not Hobson’s Choice, nor supporting oligarchs, monarchs, or individual peers, but rather about using the procedures set down in the Magna Carta in order free ourselves from being “unjustly governed”. These procedures mean that 40 days after the petition has been submitted to the monarch, the people can set up a new government, composed of indigenous Britons from all walks of life, perhaps using the 25 peers as “Founding Fathers”. This doesn’t mean getting rid of the monarchy, but simply setting up a completely new lawful government, which will automatically dissolve and invalidate both Houses of the old one, and whose first acts will be to withdraw us from the EU and recall all our troops from abroad. The troops must answer this call from the lawful new Magna Carta government, arresting any Marxist traitors in the military who try to stop them, and the Marxist traitors controlling the old government must stand down or go into exile.
Even Sir Winston Churchill foresaw that the Magna Carta would be used again, and it will be.
By: Flo on May 28, 2011
at 11:48 am
Many thanks for the replies. I’ll be following the blog.
Much of what we are experiencing in the UK is but another facet of a global power struggle. Something that without blogs as alternative information sources, many would feel at a loss to comprehend, and with hope dashed by confusion and despair.
By: Derek on May 29, 2011
at 4:01 pm
I think your all forgetting that the Queen holds power at the behest of the pope..
All you people claiming that Magna Carta is some magical document forget that pope innocent III quashed it about 9 days later..
In 1213 King John signed the kingdom over to the pope.. In 1215 the barons got sick of paying for King John’s wars.. And made him sign the 1215 document.. But as I said above Pope Innocent II quashed the 1215 contract because King John didnt have the power “authority” to contract with the Barons..
If logic serves me correct the Barons should of forced the pope to sign magna carta in order for it to be valid..
Even though a valid contract is non-enforceable under Duress.. Which is exactly what King John was under when he signed.. So whichever way you look at it. Magna Carta 1215 is not valid.
The fact is the people of this Island have never had any freedoms other than those given to us at birth. Its about time we realised that!. Freedom does not come from bits of paper.. It comes from within..
I like the quote from rmiglobal stating “The peers involved just want their country back. ” .. Is that the country that the queen originally stole from the indigenous people of britain in 1066 ?? Which was subsequently divided between the Barons who no doubt still own lots of the land and collect rent & taxes for their big country estates ?
Sorry folks im not buying it.. poor Barons getting shafted by a group of theives bigger than they are.. didums !
This revolution will not be like the rest!.. The kings, Queens, Pope’s, Lords & Barons have had their fill for far too long. The time is now for the people to reclaim what is rightfully theirs.. And that is the whole kingdom!
By: newmannewy on June 3, 2011
at 2:25 pm
Hey newmannewy, you sure know how to open a can of worms
Perfect timing too, our executive director (the guy who’s not too media saavy) just showed up to film another clip on concepts of Law.
Have you ever read Sir Steven Runciman’s works? The history of the Byzantine Empire may be of interest to you and especially the Varangarian Guard. Wikipedia’s blurb is short but you’ll get the gist, go halfway down the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians
The Patriarch of Constantinople, the leading churchman of the time would tell you the Bishop of Rome didn’t have the power you mention. In fact, the Greeks were always on the side of the Welsh and Anglo Saxons rather than the Normans because of the shameful 4th Crusade of 1204, which was blessed by the opportunist in the Vatican. Just because they came up with the term ‘Pope’, it doesn’t mean the then civilised world bought it. And don’t forget, it was the Pope and his allies who helped the Turks conquer the city we now call Istanbul to spite the Greeks, they went through 450 years of pure hell. Looks like it’ll happen again by the bankers, probably the latest Pope’s agents, eh? We’re not kidding!
As far as we know there were 19 bishops at Runny Mead and according to the doctrine of the time, each of them had as much power as their counterpart in Rome, even though the Vatican would dispute this till the cows come home. Henry VIII used exactly this argument first when he decided to break away. When he was ex-communicated and heaven didn’t fall on his head, the king was proven to be correct, the Pope was only a pretender to that sort of power and naked emperors don’t like being outed.
The case our legal team is putting together has it’s ‘base’ as the Magna Carta, it’s not the whole shebang.
A word of caution, the powers today would like a violent revolution, people breaking things so they can crack our skulls at will. If you’re inclined to give them such an opportunity, Vaya con Dios.
By: rmiglobal on June 3, 2011
at 5:28 pm
Well from my understanding it all comes from Rome & the Roman empire “Imperial power”. After the empire
split into different factions east/west. The east pretty much held together where as the west
dissintegrated into infighting and rivaly. They were all fighting over who held the “Imperium” power.
Because whoever held that power had the ecclesiastical & secular right to rule.
Since the break up of the western empire. The Germanic tribes became the Holy Roman Empire. And through
power of the lance & sword acquired the Imperium power left over from the Roman empire. The Holy Roman
Emperor elected the pope into office & appointed the bishops etc through the “Divine Right Of Kings”.
There was trouble over the appointments because corruption ran rampant and rich men were buying up the
offices of bishops and abbots via the crime of “Simony”. Because those offices came with land & taxes,
they were highly saught. The Pope didnt like this much so challenged the Holy Roman Emperors right to
elect those offices. And claimed the right was the business of the church, this was known as the
“Gregorian Reforms”. And hence we had the “Investiture Controversy” in the 11th & 12th century which
culminated with the “Concordat of Worms”. A contract between the Holy Roman Empire (German Kings) & the
Pope over who had the right to appoint bishops and abbots.
The Emperor renounced the right to invest ecclesiastics with ring and crosier (shepards staff), the
symbols of their spiritual power, and guaranteed election by the canons of cathedral or abbey and free
consecration. This is where the college of cardinals came from who now elect the pope. All this culminated
in the “First Council of the Lateran” in 1123 that seperated the ecclesiastical power from the secular
state power which the holy Roman Emperor or (King of the Germans) held. Which through family lines and
wars have culminated in the Kings & Queens we know today such as Elizabeth II.
Check out some of Pope gregories refoms from Dictates Papae:
1.That the Roman church was founded by God alone.
8.That he alone may use the imperial insignia.
9.That of the pope alone all princes shall kiss the feet.
12.That it may be permitted to him to depose emperors.
22.That the Roman church has never erred; nor will it err to all eternity, the Scripture bearing witness.
Check out the papal bull “Unam Sanctum” where the Papal Decree says in the last line:
“Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every
human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”
–
This is where the true power lies.. Henry VIII was a catholic & only became protestant so he could ditch
Catherine of Aragon & Marry Anne Boleyn so he could have an heir to the throne. As he previously needed permission from the pope to divorce Catherine. But the pope wouldnt grant it..
Most Kings & Queens throughout Europe have been Catholic and over the years the power of these kings was
usurped by the papacy. Those that couldnt be coerced forcefully (Henry VII) have been usurped via monetary policy. Which is where the Banking industry comes into play.
But it doesnt change the fact that the Pope held the imperium power. Kings held secular power as Vassals of the pope and Barons held their power as vassals of the King… Feudalism and Fealty were and are still order of the day.. What can the Barons complain about when they are Vassals of the King, when the King
decides to give his kingdom to the pope ? They are mere subjects like the rest of us.
The barons supposedly won their “rights” to rebellion if the Monarch ever messed about. But in reality the owners do not have to ask the employees of the corporation if they decide they want to sell it or give it away.
By: newmannewy on June 3, 2011
at 7:30 pm
sorry about the breaks in the text.. I typed it on notepad and its added returns.. doh!
By: newmannewy on June 3, 2011
at 7:31 pm
lol, now you see why I asked if you’d read Runciman.
The western Roman history begins with the Saint Denys house of forgeries. The worst or best of all was the Donation of Constantine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation_of_Constantine I’m not a big fan of Wiki but it boils this one down well.
Rome was practically abandoned till it’s revival was connected with social/heavenly climbing western monarchs. What begins with a crime ends that way. Don’t want to bore you stiff but the divine right business could only have come from the Phrygian Mother goddess cult under a new guise. Guess which one.
The best stuff isn’t online, you’d need access to the British Library rare books section but there’s plenty to keep you busy for a while with the above.
See how hard volunteers work? It’s nearly 10PM in London, nite
By: rmiglobal on June 3, 2011
at 8:44 pm
I admit im still learning.. I tried to follow the path of where power was held. Regardless of which group claimed it.
What were failing to see is the semantics of the past do not matter. As its all based on a lie. So wether a 12 century document or a 4th century document claim to give us rights, powers or other it is all based on lies & deceit.
Freedom is the key.. Liberty is a lie wrapped in a cloak of thorns.
The people have never risen up and claimed what is rightfully theirs. Watt Tyler might of came closest – but failed. The people do not need old documents. Truth stands of itself. The only people who need old documents are those who wish to claim things for themselves – thereby taking from the people.
Anyway good luck to the Barons as they will need it. I do not see what ground they have to stake their claim. I mean in reality they have had their answer.. If the Judge ruled that the 1999 act did not interfere with their letters patent. Then it didnt interfere with their letters patent. The question is then why did the Lords abide by act when it changed nothing of their status ?
A question of Legal over Lawful ??
A question of the United Kingdom being a corporation rather than what we thought it to be a Monarchical society based on age old agreements.
I suggest all 900 Lords or how many their were should descend on parliament and retake their seats. As they would not be acting unlawfully.. Legalese is private law.. Are they members of the BAR society ? Do the Barons have to abide by the laws of a society they are not members of ? Do any of us ?
I shall keep an eye on your blog.. interesting – thanks for the links
By: newmannewy on June 4, 2011
at 10:30 am
For people to ‘rise up, and take what is theirs’ requires effort, and possibly bloodshed even. Most are quite ignorant of the lie in which they live with regard to statute law and common law, and most would think anything relating to Magna Carta or the Constitution is long dead and buried – ‘history lessons? what’s that got to do with being under the EU thumb?’
Moreover, the vast majority are in their comfort zone; ‘Britan’s got talent’, X Factor’, ‘Coronation Street’, Dr. Who’. They’d need tear gas through their letter boxes to wake up. And then what? They’d be bleating for someone else to sort it out. This much the powers that be are well aware of, and rely upon. I think most people would be relied upon to die in their cells, as long as they had their flat screen and bbq.
I cannot but see sense in newmannewy’s comment. My own knowledge of religious history and its details are unknown to me. Religion and is apparatchiks in cloth and robes are but another symbol and atrefact of demented power struggles. But how much does one have to know to realise there’s and Elephant standing on one’s foot. Once it is moved, there still remains the problem of disposing of it. Once ‘risen up’ and ‘taken’ – they’d be lost.
The Devil is always in the detail, and it may be generations yet until we see real progress to something closer to anarchy.
http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/Obvious.pdf
By: Derek on June 4, 2011
at 3:29 pm
Ooops! Excuse the sloppy grammar there. I think the jist is seen.
By: Derek on June 4, 2011
at 3:32 pm